Development Meeting

Room IF-5.02 - Minutes 2008-08-06

Present: Toby Blake, Neil Brown, Roger Burroughes, Tim Colles (convener and minutes), Chris Cooke, Ian Durkacz, Graham Dutton, Stephen Quinney, Iain Rae, George Ross, Alastair Scobie, Craig Strachan

Apologies: Ken Dawson, Gordon Reid

1. Minutes of last meeting

The convener forgot about this bit so they were not officially accepted however no-one raised anything as we went through matters arising so consider accepted.

2. Matters Arising

  • Revisit Account Management Simon had produced the discussion paper and the next step will be for George to call a meeting of interested parties. The subject will be discussed at the end of this meeting and the need for and nature of any further meeting will be dependent on the outcome of this.

Because of Simon's absence it had not been possible for George to speak to him about this.

Simon pointed out that the meeting was needed to sort out the short term problem of instituting a procedure to remove any extraordinary kerberos principles belonging to people who have left. George will arrange a meeting between himself, Simon and Ken.

George is yet to arrange this. [Action George]

  • DICE SL5 Server Platform There were two pieces of software that had not apparently been ported to the SL5 64bit platform (the SL5 platform was complete). Toby confessed that he had actually ported Cosign to SL5-64 but had not closed down the corresponding bugzilla bug. Stephen offered to look at the outstanding problem. Ian will talk to Stephen about this.

George has still to port his tnm package to 64-bit. This software is in the tkined rpm. Ian has been looking into compiling this on a 64-bit SL5 platform.

George has not had time to carry out this action because of pressure from more urgent work. [Action George]

  • Craig was asked to fork a new project to handle the final stages of the web CMS work. [Action Craig]

3. Approved Projects

Since the last meeting was three months ago we touched base on all active projects.

  • AFS file system We won't meet the milestone date for moving all staff to AFS, in fact it would be preferable for the new servers to be online first. Craig will talk to Alison to agree a new milestone date to have moved all users by [Action Craig]. Craig will also add an additional milestone to cover upgrading AFS to version 1,47, installing the new servers and doing AFS performance tuning [Action Craig].

  • Review of Backup Technology The review is still relevant as it also covers how we will do backups (frequency, archival, etc). Craig will update the milestone appropriately [Action Craig].

  • Inventory System Ken sent in a report stating "Officially I am still on the cleaning of data stage but I have also almost completed the export of inventory data for LCFG headers which is another of the milestones. Libra will start generating the (draft) LCFG inventory header files from the next stable release this weekend. Also in this stable release will be new versions of the Inventory-Item-Part and Computer System custom forms, and an update on the invedit command line tool for editing inventory information." The milestones need to be updated appropriately [Action Ken].

  • Infrastructure for New Informatics Forum Wireless provision needs to be reviewed. Alastair commented that some areas need to be done very soon even if it is an interim arrangement (eg. level 1 meeting rooms, mini forum 2). Looks like the server plan will need to consider the addition of Dexian racking and storage units moving from JCMB. It may be useful to have an old printer in the server area. The milestone for wireless needs to be updated. [Action George].

  • Network Management Review This project had been stalled until we were in the Forum. Milestones need to be added [Action Ian].

  • Replacement of LPRng with CUPS Kenny MacDonald has done some of the work for us by producing a usable cups component which is now running on a test server. A production service should be imminent. Still need to move per-subnet relays from desktops to, for example, network infrastructure machines. Milestones need to be updated [Action Craig].

  • Transition of Informatics staff mail services to Staffmail About 50% of staff have moved to staffmail now. Some users still may be problematic. Craig to speak with Neil to update milestone for procedures documentation which is needed before end August [Action Craig]. Add a new milestone for the actual move deadline date [Action Craig].

  • LCFG buildtools rewrite Next milestone needs to be updated [Action Stephen]. Ten components have been converted to the new build tools. The build farm had been stalled waiting on disk space. Focus will be on building for SL5 (although this won't allow us to test multi-platform support this is a lot of work to do in Koji). Milestones need to be updated appropriately [Action Stephen]. We should have a CO technical talk on the new buildtools [Action Stephen], for now see documentation at There won't be Mac support initially although shouldn't be hard to add. There won't be test support (this will be another project).

  • Proof General Eclipse Improvements Work has started again on this since the move to the Forum and is progressing, a couple of things have been knocked off the trac list. Difficulties moving to Eclipse 3.4 which is not very cross platform. Done about month and a half of three months so milestone to be extended by six months [Action Graham]. Speak to David Aspinall to confirm [Action Tim/Graham].

  • Cluster Parallel filesystem GPFS filesystem now running on old cluster but thats about to be turned off. Will setup on new cluster before that moves to Forum. Multi-homed hosts do not work with GPFS, will try an update, but likely all nodes to be on SRIF network only (and fileserver will have to sit on SRIF as well if we are to share with ECDF). CSTR are going to be using GPFS for more testing. Networking options need to be discussed with George. Update typo on first milestone achieved date [Action Iain].

  • DICE client LDAP configuration No further progress. Going to push out new proxy cache configuration to a whole student lab and put on the clusters. Also going to do some testing with OpenLDAP 2.4. Update milestones appropriately [Action Toby].

  • DICE SL5 Services Upgrades of FC6 servers and remaining SL5 servers still to be done. Milestone needs to be updated accordingly [Action Ian].

  • Develop power management solution for DICE desktops Taking shape, deliverable will be a component to make desktops sleep/wakeup. Intend to wake up for cron jobs so going to try and eliminate unnecessary cron jobs. This project will probably run for a number of months, need to add milestones [Action Chris].

The following project was put forward for sign off at the meeting:

However it was decided that we would like an "unsupported" package list for things like fvwm before this can be considered complete [Action Tim]. The milestones will need to be adjusted to take this into account [Action Tim].

4. New project proposals

  • Desktop Virtualization The project proposal was accepted and the project moves forward to the evaluation stage. The EULA needs to be checked now VirtualBox is owned by Sun, the work required on networking is likely to be carried out by the MPU and we should have a meeting to discuss common requirements for VMware/Xen/VirtualBox. The timescale will have to be extended to cover this. Tim will move to evaluation and add milestones as appropriate [Action Tim].

  • Collaborative LaTeX System The project proposal was accepted and the project moves forward to the evaluation stage. Tim will move to evaluation and add milestones as appropriate [Action Tim]. Chris commented that the devproj management field had truncated the content and should be extended, although it was also pointed out that this field should actually only hold the name of the manager - clarification required [Action Tim/Ken].

  • Package Teaching & Research Software for Fedora The project proposal was accepted and the project moves forward to the evaluation stage. Need to confirm packages can be pushed to EPEL from Fedora. Anyone can become a sponsored package submitter with effort. All packages should be marked in the Fedora CVS repository with both timc and sxw as maintainers for redundancy. Tim will move to evaluation and add milestones as appropriate [Action Tim].

5. AOB

Alastair asked when we last did project prioritisation. We discovered this was in February but was intended to be quarterly hence should also have been done in the May meeting but was not. Should be added to the Agenda for the next meeting [Action Tim].

The next meeting will be on September 3rd in the Forum.

-- TimColles - 06 Aug 2008

Topic revision: r2 - 07 Aug 2008 - 09:05:14 - TimColles
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